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Retro fitting power steering to a MK2

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Kevin-A1 Kevin Andrews
Bungay, Norfolk, UK   GBR
1960 Ford Anglia "Lil Red Rooster"
1963 Jaguar Mark 2 "Dotty"
1968 MG MGC "Olive"
Evening all

Has anyone performed this task, if so which type did you choose etc. how did it go and what sort of cost are we talking about?

Thanks in advance.

Kevin



Regards

Kevin

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kobym Koby Millo
Tel-Aviv, Tel-Aviv, Israel   ISR
1967 Jaguar 420
1969 MG MGC
Hi Kevin,

I have PS in my 420, and maybe the system could be retrofitted in the MK2, but it looks like the easiest solution is this one:

http://www.ezpowersteering.nl/language/23/2/Home.html

And specifically the MK2 application:

http://www.ezpowersteering.nl/type/26/72/Jaguar_Mark_2.html

I saw one of their conversions on a 58 Corvette and it looks great, and one of the MGC guys did it on a C-GT and was very happy with the result - see here:

http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,2101815,2101815#msg-2101815


And here:

http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,2180510,2180510#msg-2180510

Regards,

Koby

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Kevin-A1 Kevin Andrews
Bungay, Norfolk, UK   GBR
1960 Ford Anglia "Lil Red Rooster"
1963 Jaguar Mark 2 "Dotty"
1968 MG MGC "Olive"
Hi Koby

Its nice to get a reply! winking smiley

Viewed 2 with PAS at the weekend so hopefully I wont need to get my hands dirty, not on PAS anyway!!



Regards

Kevin

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kobym Avatar
kobym Koby Millo
Tel-Aviv, Tel-Aviv, Israel   ISR
1967 Jaguar 420
1969 MG MGC
Considering the trafic in this forum, I think we can switch to emails between us winking smiley

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Kevin-A1 Kevin Andrews
Bungay, Norfolk, UK   GBR
1960 Ford Anglia "Lil Red Rooster"
1963 Jaguar Mark 2 "Dotty"
1968 MG MGC "Olive"
In reply to # 5463 by kobym Considering the trafic in this forum, I think we can switch to emails between us winking smiley

Nah, lets continue to post here with all the voyeurs watching winking smiley



Regards

Kevin

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FarCanal Jim G
Adelaide, Australia   AUS
Hi Fellas
Just to show others DO read these forums - I too am looking for a solution to acquiring Power Steering to my MkIX Jag (Manual box installed when purchased). So If I am to do one of the 2 x V8 engine swaps I am considering - Power Steering is a MUST !!! ANYBODY out there with a "serviceable" unit = I am interested. The electric route is an expensive exercise - especially from Adelaide, South Australia, so ANY help gladly appreciated - for example - has ANYONE retro-fitted a 'Rack & pinion system to one of these older Marks yet - or know some-one who has ??? Wink, Wink, Smile Smile smiling smiley

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kobym Koby Millo
Tel-Aviv, Tel-Aviv, Israel   ISR
1967 Jaguar 420
1969 MG MGC
I know of a guy who innstalled a rack & pinion from an XJ6 in a 420.
He needed to fabricate brackets, change the hydraulic hose adaptors, and install a connecting rod with 2 universal joints between the pinion and his steering column.
I might have pictures somewhere - need to dig in the archive smiling smiley
I guess it is doable on the MkIX as well.

Cheers,

Koby

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ahaugland Silver Member Alex Haugland
Eugene, OR, USA   USA
Power steering via the XJ6 steering rack is an option with the Mk2. It's a pretty common kit for specialists to make and there are a few different versions to fit it. I have a friend with a Jaguar 3.8S that has an XJ6 rack in it, which, when stock, has the same steering and front suspension setup as the Mk2. The disadvantage is that it screws up the ackerman angle of the suspension which leads to excessive front tire wear and very audible squealing going around tight corners at even a reasonable speed. Ideally, you'd want the Varamatic power steering system out of a 420 or a 1967 S-Type as it's the best of the factory fitted systems, but turning up the parts is very difficult. The earlier power steering boxes tend to be worn out, leak, and parts aren't available for them, so although the period solution is perhaps the cleanest installation, it can potentially create more problems than it solves.

--Alex Haugland
Eugene, Oregon
USA

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Kevin-A1 Kevin Andrews
Bungay, Norfolk, UK   GBR
1960 Ford Anglia "Lil Red Rooster"
1963 Jaguar Mark 2 "Dotty"
1968 MG MGC "Olive"
Hi Alex

It was really for my wife I was considering fitting PAS but we've been driving her for several months now and apart from the manoeuvring to get in and out of the garage it hasn't been too bad so we won't be installing PAS now.



Regards

Kevin

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PeterT Peter T
Oxford, Oxford, UK   GBR
It's something that I've been thinking and reading about for my Mk2 literally for years. Various specialists produce systems using XJS, XJ series or XJ40 racks. Some owners who have installed them say they are good; others say they are not. The real or potential negatives are bump steer and loss of Ackerman. Both arise from the considerable trail (pointing backwards) of the Mk2 wishbones. The rack really needs to be very short or centre take off.

Personally, I thought the kits were a bit expensive, so I bought a second hand XJS rack and had some brackets made up, but I've never installed them. I've set them out next to a Mk2 subframe on the garage floor and it doesn't look good.

Some people have resorted to shortening the rack or adopting X-type racks that are shorter.

The original power system fitted to most of the Mk2s is fairly awful and that of the early S-types is not wonderful (I think the S-type is at least less low geared than the one on the Mk2). The Marles Variomatic system from the 420 (and very late Mk2 and S-type) is much nicer, but still a steering box. Certainly, it's a good, safe option, if you can find one. Incidentally, you do need the complete steering gear and the subframe (or be prepared to modify your existing subframe).

PeterT Peter T
Oxford, Oxford, UK   GBR
... I forgot to mention. A higher ratio manual box is now available. It might make a nice combination with the EZ system and be relatively straightforward to install.

Orlando, FL, USA   USA
I drove a friend's MK-2 with a rack & pinion power steering system and the steering locked up while driving it!!

Forget it I thought! I don't know what happened afterwards. He sold the car.

My S type has the factory Power Assist system and the "assist" part is fine as long as you're going in a straight line, but parking the car in a tight spot? where's the beef? where;s the power?

I also gave up on the rack & pinion modification because I have heard so many conflicting and mostly negative comments, such as the turning circle being affected.

Frankly, these are old technology cars and we either love them as they are, or we buy a Toyota Camry, and I am NOT buying a Toyota Camry Thank You, I'm sticking with my S type and XJ-6.



1965 Jaguar S type
1984 Jaguar XJ-6

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MKJag Pat Ruster
East Tawas, MI, USA   USA
I will install an electric unit this summer after the car is out of storage. I am interested in how this will enhance the maneuvering without any loss of power.

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